Summary
Today’s guest is the host of the “Lemonade Stand Stories” podcast https://podcast.lemonadestand.org/, and is a great example of taking risks and seeing it pay off. Back around 2008, he moved to L.A. to continue to pursue his dream of acting on tv and film. He had already seen a certain level of success, but he kept seeing signs telling him that was the next step for him. He went on to have guest roles on extremely popular shows including Silicone Valley in a guest role as Javeed. Today he shares with us the power of being authentic and how that can make a major difference in you path to success. He currently has an upcoming role in season 2 of “the Chosen” which can be found on BYUtv or streaming in Peacock.
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Phil Salter 0:01
Yeah. All right. Yeah. Welcome, Charan. Welcome, welcome. Yeah,
Charan Prabhakar 0:06
I’m doing well that hey doing.
Phil Salter 0:07
I’m good. Welcome to no better time. I’m here. This is Phil Salter. I’m here with Charan Prabhakar. My friend that goes way back.
Unknown Speaker 0:16
Gosh, man, we go for so far back. I think we were just we were like discussing beforehand. It was like 2006 or 2007.
Unknown Speaker 0:22
Probably Yeah. Yeah. Easy, dude,
Unknown Speaker 0:25
how fast time flies insane.
Phil Salter 0:27
I mean, time is kind of like, we haven’t necessarily like, communicated much beyond like social media, but I’ve always kind of just, you always been really supportive, awesome guy. We were like in a church congregation that was made for singles. Back in the day.
Unknown Speaker 0:41
Yes. And you graduated Congrats. Congratulations. I’m like, like the ultra, ultra superduper. Senior that is
Unknown Speaker 0:50
still there.
Unknown Speaker 0:51
And just yeah, just in that congregation, you know?
Phil Salter 0:54
Yeah, man. You’re on the market. So eligible. eligible bachelor?
Unknown Speaker 0:59
Yes.
Phil Salter 0:59
Looking good. looking real good, man.
Unknown Speaker 1:01
I know, man, I
Unknown Speaker 1:02
got like so much salt and pepper right now.
Phil Salter 1:03
Dude. I love that. I think it looks really great.
Unknown Speaker 1:06
So it was funny. I was actually dating a girl, cuz I used to dye my hair all the time. Because of roles, you know, I would get certain acting roles. And I wanted to my face looks kind of young. And so with the dark hair, I would still play younger roles. And I was dating this girl. And she was she saw that I was having gray come through. And should we How long has that been a thing? And I’m like, Oh, I don’t know. But don’t worry about I’m going to go ahead and diet so don’t worry. She’s the week No, no, don’t you dare. Don’t you dare diet. Let’s,
Unknown Speaker 1:36
let’s see what
Unknown Speaker 1:37
happens. I’m like, Okay, are you sure she’s gonna trust me? And so anyway, it came out like total salt and pepper. And the funny thing is, I get way more rolls now. The craziest thing? So I’ll take you
Phil Salter 1:51
i think i think it’s great, man. It’s such it’s very distinguished and classy, dude. In fact, I didn’t know cuz I remember like, I’d seen you on like social media now. And then you had the salt pepper going on? I don’t know if you did it for a role. No, it looks good. Doesn’t look like it doesn’t look like you did it, like, faked it or something? It just looks really good.
Unknown Speaker 2:08
Asked me just the other day, they’re like, Hey, have you been dyeing your hair to make it look like this? Because it looks awesome. And I’m
Unknown Speaker 2:13
like, No,
Phil Salter 2:15
I’m gonna work because it’s like, so evenly, like, destroyed. And you know,
Unknown Speaker 2:19
this is all God, that’s that. This is not anything that I’m doing. You know.
Phil Salter 2:23
And if you’re just listening to this, rather than seeing the video, this isn’t as interesting to you, maybe, or at least on the visual of it. But trust me, he’s looking good. I so I reached out to recently because I started this new podcast, and it’s one of those things that, uh, as well as things you kind of put yourself out there and it’s kind of could be scary to try something new. And now put your voice out there and say, Hey, I have something that people might be interested to hear. And it’s this balance of like, Am I doing what am I doing this for? Is it for me to grow? Is it to get attention? You know, I don’t maybe some of both, and you Cheran are an actor, and you moved out to California, and I think you’ve since moved back to Utah. I didn’t know that until today. And that was a big risk for you.
Unknown Speaker 3:07
It was a huge risk, but it felt like the right thing to do. I mean, we were having this discussion just a little bit before. But back in 2008, I acted in a movie called one man’s treasure. And you and I actually put that movie together, which was hilarious. We were making the connection. And we actually filmed our audition tapes in the basement of none other than Donny Osmond. It was just hilarious that we went over there and filmed this audition over there. Yes. Yeah, like a creepy basement. And we’re like, Alright, this is perfect. Well, we’ll use your basement. It’s gonna be awesome.
Phil Salter 3:40
That’s right. There was like a certain crawlspace space area that was just like a dirt bottom. There bought it. Yeah, well, we met the audience was
Unknown Speaker 3:48
perfect. So I was like, Alright, let’s just let’s just go shoot here. So funny enough, I did that film. And I’m giving you a lot of like information that you might not even need or want, but I’m going for it anyway. Oh,
Phil Salter 4:01
it’s interesting.
Unknown Speaker 4:02
So um, while I was there, we were doing that 2008 also happened to be my 10 year high school reunion. And the day of my reunion at the exact building. I mean, this is just like one of those like, like serendipitous hand of God type moments. There was this director I met like, a couple hours earlier in the same building, they were having another meeting or something like that. So I met this guy who was a director, and he and I hit it off really well. And he was a very nice guy. And you know, quite a bit older than me. And he basically was like, Well, yeah, I am working on films and stuff. And let’s just keep in touch. Well, while I was filming one man’s treasure, I get this audition notice for like a suspense movie called the mind. And I was reading through the description of it and everything like that, and it was this director that was directing it. And there happened to be one character that I was like, Hey, I could I could audition for that character like that could fit And so I reached out to this director and I’m like, Hey, is this your film? Like, can I audition for it? He’s like, Yeah, actually, I was hoping you would. So I went, and I auditioned. And I didn’t know what was gonna happen because we had like series of auditions. And at the end of the day, he was like, You know what, I really like you for your role, but none of the other Utah talent I was overly excited about. So I’m going to LA. So I was like, oh, if he goes to LA, like, there’s just no chance I’m going to get it. But I was very fortunate and blessed. And I did end up getting that role. But all the other actors were all la based. And I had a great time on that film. It was super fun. And I always say, hey, that film actually even got five stars on Netflix. I never was a dude, no way. That’s amazing. But I’m like, Well, to be clear, only one and a half of those stars were colored red. Everything else was I 100. So anyway, that’s that’s how I make myself feel better. But, but the experience was amazing, right? And all the other actors were like, what are you doing in Utah? Like, why? Why are you trying to establish your career here? And I’m like, Well, I don’t know, I just never really considered moving to LA. And they said, Well, listen, if you come out, we will help you. We will definitely, like get you with, like an agent or something. And we’ll just help you get your foot in the door, because you’re awesome. And we had a great time with you. And I thought that was super cool. Mm hmm. So that happened. And then another crazy thing that happened, which was just like, man, like, all these signs, were pointing me to go to LA, right. I happen to teach snowboarding at Sundance. I’ve been doing this for a couple years. What I’d also been doing at Sundance for a couple years was pulling a prank on new instructors. And, and this The thing was, it wasn’t my way. It was my idea originally, but the whole ski school was in on it. And what I would do is I would pump one of the new instructors that’s never been met me before. And I would say I was thrown off the boat from India. I had no idea to board and I would make this poor girl Teach me and I’d have like a thick Indian accent. I have jeans on
Unknown Speaker 7:09
a sweater.
Unknown Speaker 7:10
Just the worst, right? And of course, I knew what she was teaching me now would like make it so like I just had no clue what was going on. And then halfway through the lesson, I’d say a fake Indian prayer and all of a sudden I can magically snowboard right. that’s been going on for a while. But what was funny was this particular year, Ben Stiller came and visited the resort with his wife and my boss was teaching him how to board and I briefly met Ben the day before I did the prank. And when I was doing the prank, he waved to me, but I didn’t want to blow my cover. So I just got to give him like a little head nod. And he turns to my boss, he’s like, what the heck,
Unknown Speaker 7:47
man? Like this
Unknown Speaker 7:48
guy was so nice to me. Why don’t you just give me like a little head nod. Right? And my boss is like, No, no, listen, he’s got to be incognito. He’s pulling this prank on this girl. So unbeknownst to me, Ben was watching me do this prank. Right. So after I’m done with the prank, I’m back in the ski school. You’re just like reviewing footage. He walks up to me and he’s like, dude, can I just shake your hand? I’m like, What in the world is happening right now? I’m
Unknown Speaker 8:12
like, wow.
Unknown Speaker 8:14
And he’s like, dude, like, that was some of the funniest stuff I’ve ever seen. I’m like, Are you serious? You’re watching me do that thing. And he’s like, let me see some of the footage. And so I showed him the footage. And there were moments dude, when he was crying, laughing like he was just crying. laughing I’m like, this is so bizarre. It’s so crazy, right? Wow,
Unknown Speaker 8:33
I wasn’t,
Unknown Speaker 8:34
I wasn’t chasing after this. I wasn’t like, Oh my gosh, yeah, watch this thing. It just was happening. And afterwards, like, the next day, he was asking you all about me and like what I wanted to do in life. And I said, Well, I actually, you know, I’m planning on moving to LA, I want to get into acting. He’s like, Oh, you want to be an actor? And I said, Well, yeah, but listen, I don’t want to bother you. I you know, you asked, I told you. He said, No, no, listen, dude, let me give you some advice. So he sat me down. And he gave me three bits of advice. You know, he said, first off, like, he’s like, you’ve got to, like, create your own path. He kept saying create your own path. And, and he also said, You’ve got to persevere. Okay? Create your own path, persevere. And he says, and then he also said, don’t eat after midnight. I’m just kidding. He didn’t say that. In fact, I forgot what the last thing he said was, but I remember like, the biggest things were just like, hey, make sure you are creating your own path and you’re persevering. And just like network meet people, like connect with people, right. And that really struck me right so when I moved to LA and he was so cool, like He even gave me some phone numbers like of his of his production company of his assistant. He’s like, Look, I can’t promise anything’s gonna actually happen. But when you get out there, like go give him your material. So that was like a really cool boost from like, a good like, emotional boost, right? Yeah, and What was interesting, I know we were talking a little bit about this was being authentic. Yes. And I think that was the key for me was like that print, all of that stuff was just like, me being kind of like, this is like the authentic like, this is my humor. Like, this is what I want to do. Like this is my creation time, right? And that’s what like, got people interested. If I was trying to like, I mean, I know I’m acting, so I wasn’t my who I was, but like, again, that was like my version of it. That makes sense. Yeah, for sure. Like the lesson I’ve learned throughout my entire life through all the different roles I’ve played in ACC, and I know we will talk a little bit about Silicon Valley, but like, with all the different roles and stuff I played, like, the moment I took ownership of things, and I brought my authentic voice to it, it would flourish. They they would flourish the way was supposed to flourish, I would say. And yeah, I feel that’s true, not just about acting and roles, but just about life. So definitely,
Phil Salter 11:02
Oh, it’s so it’s so true. And I think I find that myself is, like I said earlier, I’m doing this podcast, and I always had this vision of like, people really like being into something that I’m doing and being creative and creating something that people care about. But it’s like, I need to like step back and say, like, don’t do this just like follow how many listens are there, just for the sake of accomplishing people listening to something. But it’s like, I want to be authentic. I want to offer something that helps people and also grow in the process. And so it’s really cool to hear you say that, and it doesn’t mean that you don’t put your best self forward or like, do something like you were acting like this. You weren’t doing it to impress Ben Stiller. It was Ben Stiller, right? Yeah. Ben Stiller, right. So that’s really great advice for anybody that’s in any pursuit is to do it authentically and as yourself and don’t do it. I guess to get some effect from somebody, right? Is that make sense?
Unknown Speaker 11:57
I think like, for me, it’s
Unknown Speaker 11:58
like always like, hey, look, when you’re authentic. The creation of something is its reward is the reward.
Unknown Speaker 12:05
Yeah, yes,
Unknown Speaker 12:07
that’s a lightness you feel is the reward. It’s not about the money to be making. It’s not about the like, like the potential fame or it’s not about the outside outcomes right? down the road. It’s about that sense of feeling alive right now. And I think that’s such an important thing, in fact, with some buddies of mine, also actors, that you probably would recognize korban already and Jason Wade, we created an acting course, an online acting course. And that was one of the things that we kept emphasizing over and over in that course, is that the reward of acting is that sense of a likeness, you feel right now, while you’re doing it, at the moment, you are doing it, right. And I think, if people can live life like that, where they’re not so worried about the outcome, but they’re more focused on the process, and the immediate joy they can have, that is the fuel that satisfies them, that keeps them going keeps them doing things. And the money is the byproduct. You know what I mean? Yeah, fame is the byproduct and all those things are the byproducts. But if you’re using if you’re looking at that as like, Oh, this is my source of validation, this is my source of joy and happiness. It’s gonna be so empty. Yeah, those things will never fulfill you.
Phil Salter 13:24
Even if you get the things that you are going for to get that feeling. It’s not going to fulfill you. That makes sense. Yeah. And I i’ve been just kind of the sweet thing of your podcast that I’ve been listening to, which is fun. I reached out to you. And then I realized after Oh, you you’re on this like podcast, you’re those host. And that’s pretty cool. And it doesn’t hurt it have so my podcasts that also Yeah, knows about podcasts. Yeah, but I you had you started, you tell him this before you kind of started doing a thing just for fun. And just for the passion of interacting with people, because you can’t talk about that.
Unknown Speaker 13:58
Yeah, absolutely. So it was last year. And when COVID hit everyone, like so many people’s industry shut down, including mine. And I, like everybody else was just like, Man, what am I going to do with my life? You know, how is my time? What should I be focusing on? And I remember like, as I was praying about it, and thinking about it, one of the big things I kept feeling was like, I need to do things that are fun for me. And the reason why I do things that are fun for me is because only one I’m having fun like truly having fun in my completely authentic.
Unknown Speaker 14:33
That’s
Unknown Speaker 14:34
that was when I kept getting and it was this an interesting feeling. So many times I was living life for other people. They were like seeing other people were saying, Oh, this is good and good. And you should be doing these other things. I’m like, Oh, yeah, that makes sense. I should do those things. And it wasn’t like what they were seeing was bad. It’s just I just never checked in with my soul to really see Hey, is this what my soul wants? Is that what I really want, or living life because of somebody else’s expectations and for So long I was doing that. So COVID was a great reset for me. And it helped me to like, think, what do I really want? And one of the things that like excited me was like, Hey, I think it’d be kind of fun to like, just do these like little zoom podcasts, just talk to people and see what they’re up to. And we call it going the social distance. It was nothing. There’s no fancy budget or anything behind it. It was just do you have a computer? I’ve got a computer, do you have internet access? I’ve got internet access conversation. And so it was just that it was doing that. And then I would just post it to my Facebook. Well, I started noticing people started liking it, they were watching and they were like listening to it. And I’m like, wow, like, this is cool. Like, people seem interested in learning about other people. And it was all about sparking connection. Especially everyone felt isolated. And that’s kind of what drove me because I was hearing other people’s stories. And one of the things I love doing is just to have good conversations. Anyway, somebody’s making a podcast, right? Mm hmm. Well, while I was doing that, one of the last people I interviewed on that going to social distance podcast was a guy by the name of Greg Trimble, who’s an internet blogger, like a kind of a Mormon blogger. He’s done a lot of good stuff in the internet marketing world. And I’ve always respected Greg, he’s such a good guy. And while I was interviewing him, like, after I finished interviewing him, he’s like, Hey, what are you doing with these zoom podcasts? And I’m like, I don’t know, like, putting them on Facebook. So at least 12 or 13. People like, Listen, you know, he’s like, Okay, well, that’s very exciting for you. Listen, I have a digital marketing agency called the lemonade stand. And we’re all about building and blessing. Like, that’s their main motto. And we’ve been wanting to have a podcast that just talks about people’s cool stories and like, what gets them motivated? What gets them excited? And what are their lemonade stand stories and how they live their life, from lemons to lemonade, when when hard things hit them, right? And he’s like, I say, while you’re talking, we’re having this interview. I keep feeling like you should be the host of a podcast. I’m like, Wait, are you kidding me? Like, I don’t even know what I’m doing. I literally I’m just like talking to people is like, that’s all you got to do. Like, just talk to people and engage them in good conversations, ask them like deep, poignant questions. And I realized I’ve been doing that type of thing, naturally for a long time. So anyway, I transitioned quickly. And now I’m the host of this the lemonade stand stories podcast, which is also on all the platforms and stuff. So
Phil Salter 17:32
yeah, definitely, people should check it out. It’s really good. I’ve listened to multiple episodes. And it’s, I realized, Wow, it really meshes with what my podcast is about to. And so it’s like really cool to listen to it to kind of like, be inspired by how you interact with people. And the questions you ask, and the stories you can get from people, and everyone has a story. And so it’s caused me to think who in my life can I reach out to, you know, that I can get their story from and what’s their angle on the world around them? So it’s really cool that authenticity led to opportunity and, like built skills. Mm hmm. That could lead to other opportunities, you know, and it’s, and that’s great. You know, it’s not like, it’s not only about always just doing something that you’re passionate about, it’s okay to have success, too.
You know, that’s awesome. Yeah.
So good for you, man. I so I definitely urge people to check it out. I just, I really appreciate you taking the time man to come on here and talk with me. Um, I just, I want to I want to stay in better contact with you, man. Especially
Unknown Speaker 18:34
now that you’re in Utah. Me means that we have new podcasts for that. But no, absolutely. We got to see better contacts. So absolutely. I’d love that.
Phil Salter 18:42
Yeah. So is there I know that you’re also anything else you want to like, bring up? I know, you’re on the chosen? Is that been released yet? No, you know what, that has not
Unknown Speaker 18:49
been released. And you know, that was a funny story, as well. See, again, I feel like my entire life is just full of like, random, crazy miracles. It’s
Unknown Speaker 18:57
just yeah,
Unknown Speaker 18:57
fun. And like, when I’m having the most fun, that’s when the success happens. For me anyway, for me, and I’m not saying that. Everyone else is like that. But I will that that’s
Phil Salter 19:09
your that’s your authenticity, right? Well, having fun, maybe someone else playing having fun all the time. Is them pretending you know, maybe they like being very serious, and stoic or whatever the word is. And it’s like, it’s just one thought, though. Now I’ll let you but what you’re saying is I was thinking about this. I heard someone say this recently. Can’t remember where but it’s just like, you may have, like you said, People give you advice, you should do A, B and C, right. And you say, well, maybe that’s not the way I want to do it. It was like for instance, comedians are like, supposed to be fat. That makes them funny. But some people say to a comedian, oh, you can’t be fit. You can’t be healthy and be funny. But it’s like, well, maybe I want to be, you know what I mean? And maybe that’s my authenticity, and it works for that person. Cuz they’re real. Yeah, anyways, dude, that’s a weird example. But
Unknown Speaker 19:57
here’s the thing. That’s, that’s the That’s it though, right? As an actor, like, sometimes you’re constantly changing your look in a suit changing different things to like, I don’t know, like, like, right now I’ve kind of more of a clean cut look. But I’ve had looks on shows where it’s like full beard, like, like my hands crazy, totally different character, right. But even within those different characters I played, and we talked a little about Silicon Valley. And, and that was a certain look and vibe, that was a certain sort of clothes, right? Even within all of these different roles, you still have to bring your authenticity to it, your power, only that fuels the character, right? And that fuels life. And I think like in life, we go through many, many different phases, right? Sometimes you’re like, you’re you find yourself in your early 20s, and you’re young and single, and like, okay, what’s your authentic self? What’s going to happen in that phase of your life, then you might be in your 30s, and you’re a little more established, or in your 40s, I just turned 40. And so it’s like, okay, like now, it’s a totally different phase of life. How do you find authenticity and Power and Light and Love during that phase? Right. But you know, we were talking a bit about the chosen. And I, if I don’t know if your listeners and stuffer are familiar with that show, but it’s a biblical show, about the life of Christ told through the apostles perspectives. And I had auditioned for the show multiple times, and I just didn’t get anything. But I was friends with the director, and producer of the show and everything. And the director was like, Hey, listen, you didn’t get anything, but you’re a good enough actor, and we’re gonna find something for you. And I’m like, Alright, hey, no problem. But again, I was like, as long as it’s real, and it feels authentic. Like, yeah, sure. That sounds awesome, right? Well, as it turns out, last year, like September ish, I was putting together a movie, I was producing a movie. So I produced as well as I act. And while I was getting ready to produce this movie, I got hit up by the director of the chosen. He’s like, hey, how fast can you grow a beard? And I’m like, I don’t know, like, in a couple weeks ago, probably have something. And he’s like, well, there’s something for you. But then I said, Well, listen, here’s the deal. Unfortunately. I was not unfortunately, I’m producing a movie. I don’t know if I’ll be able to make I don’t know if I’ll be able to Rhea. Eyes it okay. Yeah, no worries. Well, congrats to you. And, you know, just hit me up when you’re back. So I hit him back up after a couple of weeks. And I said, Hey, the movies done? Do you already start growing facial hair out? And he’s like, well, there’s not really a rule for you right now. But um, I guess, yeah, grow facial hair out. And then we’ll just see. It’s very ambiguous, right. So I’m like, Alright, whatever, Sasha growing facial hair out.
Unknown Speaker 22:55
And
Unknown Speaker 22:56
I remember this is probably like, end of October, beginning beginning of November. That’s what it was. I’ve been drawing facial hair out for about 10 days or so. And I was at my, my friend’s office, and we just finished up a meeting. And it was like, late at night. So it was a Monday evening, late at night. And I suddenly was like, I just thought, maybe I should text a picture of my beard to Dallas. And then the second thought was, that’s weird. Why would you text a grown man a picture of your,
Phil Salter 23:28
of your grown man’s beard, man? Yeah, exactly.
Unknown Speaker 23:31
I was I was like, I’ve been dumber things. Let’s just do it. So I took a picture of just like a selfie of my facial hair. And I texted it to Dallas, and I said, Hey, Dallas. So this is currently where I’m looking at facial hair wise. And that was it. Two seconds later, I swear he texted me back. He’s like, emergency question. What are you doing tomorrow? I’m like, uh, working on the chosen question, Mark. Yeah, seriously, he’s like, he’s like, if you can, there’s a role. We would love for you to play. I’m like, Are you serious? And he’s right, you got to get COVID tested, like right now I’m like, okay, I can do that. And so I’d like rearrange some stuff. But what happened on his end was a lot more intense than what happened on my end, my end, you know, I got the I got the script
Unknown Speaker 24:17
and
Unknown Speaker 24:18
all the stuff I got last minute. And then the next day I went to set and I filmed and it was amazing. And I got to meet a lot of the cast. What happened on his end was, he had the scene that he needed to film. But the guy, the first guy that they were in a cast couldn’t do it. And the second guy, they were in a cast, was it also in LA, and he just couldn’t get COVID tested and fly out in time, and just so much stress. And so Dallas was like looking into flights like late into the night wondering like what was gonna happen? And while he was like, so stressed out and I tried to know it was gonna happen. I randomly texted him a picture of me with a beard. And all of a sudden he like turns your produce. He’s like, dude, chairman’s in town.
Unknown Speaker 24:58
He can totally with a spark. Well, it’s amazing. It was crazy. But I think there’s
Phil Salter 25:03
some good takeaways here, man, like, first of all, it’s okay like to be confident in what we’re doing. And sometimes we have to say no to things, right? Sure. And you have to make choices. And you can’t kick yourself, like you got to go with, you know, what makes sense of the time. But also maintaining relationships and like listening to those gut, you could call it inspiration. You could, it could be like something from God, it could be something just within the universe within you. But you should roll with those. It’s like, I feel that when I reached out to you, I just randomly thought you’d be like, you know what, I’m just gonna ask him. And I was like, he might not be able to, and I was kind of, it makes you nervous, right. But then I just did it. Like, you text him. And then you’ve texted it, you messaged me back really quickly. And I was like, you’re like, let’s do it. And I was like, that’s, that’s awesome. So yeah, you got to put yourself out there, you got to listen to those feelings. I’ve learned a lot in my life, you just got to like, don’t push that stuff away, reach out to somebody if you think of them.
Unknown Speaker 25:54
But the thing I love about that is and auditioning as well taught me a lot of this, but like, when you completely authentic and and just like living in your power, you start to develop self love, which I think is awesome. When you’re not authentic. It’s hard to love yourself. You just aren’t, you’re just not authentic. You don’t love yourself, because you’ve never been yourself, you know? And, and so as a result of that, as a result of that self love and as a result of being authentic. You can put yourself out there, it doesn’t matter what anyone else says because you still love yourself. Yeah. And that was a big thing that I got from all the auditions in LA because I audition so many times. And one of the big things I learned is how to be okay when people say no to you, like, to all the time, right? But there was a point where I was so like confident and full of love in life. I legit didn’t care what happened. The audition. I’m like, yeah, that’s my dream. I’m gonna go out there, I’m gonna go present a character. But whatever happens, it doesn’t matter. I’m just stoked I get to have an opportunity to do this. My one my energy was like that. I would book way more. And remember 2017 I was like, I felt like I was booking like almost everything or that I was going out for a TV show wise, right? Wow. It was just one of those things where I was like, wow, like, it just what is a form of like energy? I would think it just yeah, form of like, Hey, I was confident I felt good about myself. Yeah, load.
Phil Salter 27:33
Yeah. And it’s not it’s very different from being like arrogant or cocky. It’s like, I can see like, when you love yourself and you care of yourself, you see how other people could also enjoy you as well and want to be around you. You know, you start to like believe like, oh, people want to be my friend. People want to work with me. People want to interact with me. And I feel that more as I’ve kind of matured and grown and had more evidence as you put yourself out there and you see the positive results, making friends, opportunities that come your way. So that’s really cool, man.
Unknown Speaker 28:03
I think one of the greatest gifts you can give humanity is to love yourself. Yeah. Don’t take yourself because the moment you do you give permission for them to do the same for
Phil Salter 28:14
you. Yeah, definitely. And when someone’s just always self deprecating, like, I’ve been there too, you know what I mean? It’s can be it can be funny, but it can just go too far. And it can become like a habit and a pattern.
Unknown Speaker 28:25
Yeah, like self deprecation. I know I’ve done it before. And I will say this, that there sometimes is like little truth to what you’re saying. And words are powerful. And if you’re not careful, the stuff that you’re saying defines who you are. So
Phil Salter 28:41
yeah, definitely. And Dude, you have so much awesome things to say. And I just like I said, I appreciate you coming on here. I want people to check out you in Silicon Valley as javeed hilarious in the chosen as maybe a more a different kind of character.
Unknown Speaker 29:00
Yes, for sure. Yeah.
Unknown Speaker 29:03
I think season two episode eight.
Phil Salter 29:05
Oh, cool. That’s good to know. Okay, that I didn’t see it on your IMDb or anything sounds like it must be. Okay. Um, and check out the podcast lemonade stand stories. Yes. That’s really cool. And yeah, thanks again, man. And if anybody has any questions, if they have a podcast topic ideas or want to add to the conversation, if you have questions for charity, I could send him his way, man, if you could email me at No Better Time. podcast@gmail.com Thanks for listening and just keep pushing and this episode will be called being authentic with Charan because that’s what it came down to is kind of organically became about being authentic. And that’s so important. So be authentic today and be true to yourself and, and show love to yourself and to others and it’s gonna take you far, and you’re gonna be a lot happier in that process. So it’s good for everybody. All right. Yeah. Have a good one man.
Unknown Speaker 30:01
Yep take care
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